Mary Crancher (nee Abbott)

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Back in 2002 I wrote to Mary Crancher (nee Abbott).  She is the Granddaughter of Agnes Mary Cullum (born 1901 in Chelsea, London).  At some point she emigrated to America along with her parents I would think.  Anyway, she did respond with a number of useful pieces of information:

More Cullum Photos!

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I recently made contact with Julie Lloyd.  She is the Granddaughter of my Great Grandfather’s brother John Cullum (confusing I know!).  Luckily we share equal enthusiasm for finding out more about this intriguing family that we are both part of.  After some initial groundwork and verification of facts, Julie started looking for the siblings of our Park House, Titchmarsh family to see if there were any living relatives.

One of James Fellowes Cullum’s sisters was called Dorothy May Cullum.  Through the records, Julie found out a little more about Dorothy May’s family and particularly the name of her Granddaughter and the man that she married.  I did a little further research and found a family with the same name living not far from where our Cullum family originate.  Julie tried to telephone them without success and instead wrote a letter.  Just a few days later she had a reply confirming that they were the right family and furthermore they had stories and photographs to share.  Julie paid them a visit this week and has added the following fascinating facts and photographs to our collection:

She didn’t now why Dorothy was listed as being born in Lambeth, whilst her brothers and sisters were born in Chelsea.

There was another sister called Marjorie Prudence Kay Cullum, she was born in the early 1900’s perhaps 1903-1906?  She lived only a few months and Miss Marshall the nurse came from Coulson Street to look after her. She was buried in  Titchmarsh Church yard and Dorothy said that she thought Agness Fellows mother could be buried close to the baby. The head stone for the baby had a lamb carved in it. I will go and search next week.

James Cullum, Dorothys father was against her marriage to George Sam Selby he said he was to old for her and on her wedding day, after the ceremony he said “now you have made your bed, you can lie in it” perhaps another reason he was against the marriage was because George has actually gone out with Agness Fellows before she got married to James himself

Dorothy had her honeymoon in London then lived in Lime Cottage East Road Oundle. George her husband worked at the Ironmongers in West Street and there only child George James Reginald Selby (Jim) was also born there. The dining room at Lime Cottage was used by a dentist and Dorothy was the nurse.

James Cullum (1852) Agness and all of the children would all go to Lilford Hall, to have dinner with Lord Lilford and they always had Venison and fresh Peaches. Lord Lilford would always say that AgnesMary (1901) was under nourished as she was very slim. Lord Lilford gave James Cullum (1852) a framed picture of himself holding a gun.
James Cullum did not get on with Cannon Luckock and when Betty (Elizabeth Lavinia Cullum) died James wanted an angel carved into her headstone but Cannon Luckock said no. James therfore went to the bishop of Peterborough where he was granted permission.

James (1852) and Agnes met at a wedding in Framlingham, she was a ladies maid to Lady Robinson who lived in Cranford Hall near Kettering. Nothing happened between then until James stayed at Cranford Hall to recover from an illness.

This is a photograph of my Great Great Great Grandfather James Cullum (born 1825):

James Cullum (born 1825)

An amazing discovery

Posted in Family History on February 22nd, 2010 by admin – Be the first to comment

One evening a few weeks ago on the phone to my Dad, he reminded me that we had taken a photograph of a photograph when we went to visit Ira and Dorothy Jones at the petrol station in St Clears during October 1986.  Sensibly, Ira and Dorothy had not wanted us to borrow the framed photograph in order to take a copy and instead we had taken what we believed to be a relatively crude photograph.  At this point, my Dad could not remember who exactly the photograph related to.

After some searching through photograph albums, my Dad managed to locate the photograph  and promised to bring it with hime when he came to visit in a few weeks time.

When my Dad arrived last Wednesday, he duly brought the photograph with him.  My notes on the back of the photograph and the text on the actual mount of the photograph confirm that the photograph was of Mr & Mrs Jones (James and Phoebe), Woolstone, St Clears and taken in 1884.

I sent a copy of the picture to my two family history contacts – Julian and Wendy.  Julian replied with the following:

“Well blow me! How interesting! Here is a pair of photogravure portraits that I inherited from my Father and which I had assumed to be my Grandmother’s grandparents. But as far as I can see from Helen’s photo my pictures have been taken from her photo! The poses and clothes look identical.

Father was never clear about who the pictures were of but they hung in his dining room for as long as I can remember. I thought they were Walter and Sarah Lloyd because of this other photos because of the number of children (3 girls and a boy) and the likeness of one of the children to another picture that I have, which I had assumed to be my Great-Grandmother.

I will bring photos of all of them to compare on Friday.”

How amazing to see such fantastic portraits of my Great Great Great Grandparents. It is also amazing that a photograph that we took back in 1986 has lead to names being added to pictures that could have remained uncertain forever.

When Julian arrived on Friday, it was good to see a pair of pictures that many previous generations of my family would have viewed in the 126 years since they were taken.  The portraits seem to be based upon some form of the photographic image but then enhanced with an acrylic or oil type paint as there is a fine texture to the surface of the image.

Leaves on the tree

Posted in Family History on January 13th, 2010 by admin – 2 Comments

Over the last few weeks, many more details (and photographs) have been uncovered concerning the Jones family from Woolstone Farm, St Clears.  Woolstone Farm is located just to the South West of St Clears and currently consists of a group of buildings and dwellings.  It is now know currently which property our original Jones family would have resided in during their time at the farm.  After James and Phoebe had finished their time farming at Woolstone Farm, it was taken over by their son John and his wife Ann.  It is assumed that the farm passed out of the Jones family when John and Ann had finished their life farming there.

Woolstone Farm taken in 2006

Woolstone Farm, St Clears, Wales taken in 2006

From the census returns, the family were clearly living at Woolstone Farm between at least 1871 and 1891.

1891 Census, Woolstone Farm, St Clears, Carmarthenshire, Wales

JONES, JAMES HEAD MAR 62 FARMER EMPLOYER CARMARTHEN MERTHYR BOTH
JONES, PHOEBE WIFE MAR 61 EMPLOYED CARMARTHEN LLANWINIO BOTH
JONES, JOHN SON SINGLE 28 FARMER’S SON EMPLOYED CARMARTHEN ST CLEARS BOTH
JONES, JANE DAU SINGLE 24 FARMER’S DAUGHTER EMPLOYED CARMARTHEN ST CLEARS BOTH
JONES, MIRIAM DAU SINGLE 22 FARMER’S DAUGHTER EMPLYED CARMARTHEN ST CLEARS BOTH
WILLIAMS, THOMAS SERVANT MAR 29 FARM LABOURER EMPLOYED PEMBROKE FISHGUARD BOTH
DAVIES, BENJAMIN SERVANT SINGLE 19 FARM SERVANT EMPLOYED CARMARTHEN ST CLEARS BOTH
TAYLOR, HARRY SERVANT SINGLE 16 FARM SERVANT LONDON PADDINGTON BOTH

1881 Census, Woolstone Farm, St Clears, Carmarthenshire, Wales

JONES, JAMES HEAD MAR 52 FARMER OF 200 ACRES CARMARTHENSHIRE
JONES, PHEBE WIFE MAR 51 FARMERS WIFE CARMARTHENSHIRE
JONES, HOWELL SON UNM 27 FARMERS SON CARMARTHENSHIRE
JONES, JOHN SON UNM 20 FARMERS SON CARMARTHENSHIRE
JONES, LEWIS SON UNM 19 FARMERS SON CARMARTHENSHIRE
JONES, MARY DAU UNM 16 FARMERS DAUGHTER CARMARTHENSHIRE
JONES, MIRIAM DAU UNM 13 FARMERS DAUGHTER CARMARTHENSHIRE
THOMAS, ANNE SERVANT UNM 24 GENERAL SERVANT CARMARTHENSHIRE
REYNOLDS, MARY SERVANT UNM 24 GENERAL SERVANT DOMESTIC CARMARTHENSHIRE

1871 Census, Woolstone Farm, St Clears, Carmarthenshire, Wales

JONES, JAMES HEAD MAR 42 FARMER ENGLAND CARMARTHEN
JONES, PHEOBE WIFE MAR 42 FARMER’S WIFE ENGLAND CARMARTHEN
JONES, WILLIAM SON UNM 20 FARMER’S SON ENGLAND CARMARTHEN
JONES, ANNE DAUR UNM 19 FARMER’S DAUGHTER ENGLAND CARMARTHEN
JONES, HOWELL SON UNM 17 FARMER’S SON ENGLAND CARMARTHEN
JONES, THOMAS SON UNM 16 FARMER’S SON ENGLAND CARMARTHEN
JONES, HENRY UNM 14 FARMER’S SON ENGLAND CARMARTHEN
JONES, JOHN SON UNM 10 FARMER’S SON ENGLAND CARMARTHEN
JONES, LEWIS SON UNM 9 FARMER’S SON ENGLAND CARMARTHEN
JONES, MARY DAUR UNM 7 FARMER’S DAUGHTER ENGLAND CARMARTHEN
JONES, JANE DAUR UNM 5 FARMER’S DAUGHTER ENGLAND CARMARTHEN
JONES, MIRIAM DAUR UNM 4 FARMER’S DAUGHTER ENGLAND CARMARTHEN
JONES, ELIZABETH DAUR UNM 2 FARMER’S DAUGHTER ENGLAND CARMARTHEN
EVANS, HOWELL NEPHEW 14 SCHOLAR ENGLAND CARMARTHEN
HOWELL, DAVID BOARDER WIDOW 77 FAMILY TUTOR ENGLAND CARMARTHEN
JONES, MARY SERVANT UNM 22 DOMESTIC SERVANT ENGLAND CARMARTHEN
JOHN, MARY SERVANT UNM 23 DOMESTIC SERVANT
MORRIS, CATHERINE SERVANT UNM 17 DOMESTIC SERVANT ENGLAND CARMARTHEN

From the census returns and gravestone inscriptions, this gives us the following family group.  It looks as though James and Phoebe had at least 14 children!

Parents
James Jones, born 1829 Carmarthenshire, died 1892
Phoebe Jones, born 1829 Carmarthenshire, died 1896

Grave of James and Phoebe Jones including some of their children at Bethlehem Chapel, St Clears

Grave of James and Phoebe Jones including some of their children at Bethlehem Chapel, St Clears

The inscription on this grave reads:
John
Son of James & Phoebe Jones
Woolstone
d. April 20 1857
aged 7 days
Elizabeth Jones
dau of above
d. Sept 21 1879
aged 4 yrs
James Jones
d. Sept 5th 1892
aged 65 yrs
Phoebe Jones
May 9th 1896
aged 68 yrs

Children of James and Phoebe Jones

William Jones, born 1849-1852 Llanginning Carmarthenshire, died between 1901-1917
Anne Jones, born 1852 Carmarthenshire, died before 1910Howell Jones, born 1852-1854 Llangining Carmarthenshire, died 27 June 1921
Thomas Jones, born 1855 CarmarthenshireHenry Jones, born 1857 Carmarthenshire
Leah Jones, born 1859John Jones, born 1857
John Jones, born 1861 Carmarthenshire
Lewis Jones, born 1862 Carmarthenshire
Mary Jones, born 1864 Carmarthenshire
Jane Jones, born 1866 Carmarthenshire, died 3 May 1949
Miriam Jones, born 1867 Carmarthenshire
Elizabeth Jones, born 1869 Carmarthenshire
Elizabeth Jones, born 1875, died 21 September 1879

William Jones, born 1849-1852 Llanginning Carmarthenshire

William Jones Descendants

William married Elizabeth Scourfield and they had children Martha, Phoebe, James and William.  Between 1891 and 1901, William and Elizabeth moved with their family from Wales to Suffolk.

1911 Census, Brynbank (formerly Bulley Green Farm), Poslingford, Suffolk
JONES, ELIZABETH HEAD WIDOW F 59 FARMER LLANDENNY VELFRY PEMBROKESHIRE
JONES, WILLIAM SCONSFIELD SON SINGLE M 24 FARM MANAGER LAWRENCE PEMBROKESHIRE
JONES, MARTHA DAUGHTER SINGLE F 31 LLANDENNY VELFRY PEMBROKESHIRE
JONES, PHOEBE ANNE DAUGHTER SINGLE F 28 LLANDENNY VELFRY PEMBROKESHIRE

1901 Census, Duck End Farm, Birchanger, Essex
JONES, WILLIAM HEAD MAR 49 FARMER OWN ACCOUNT WALES CARMARTHEN
JONES, ELIZABETH WIFE MAR 50 WALES PEMBROKE
JONES, MARTHA DAUR SINGLE 23 WALES PEMBROKE
JONES, PHEOBE A DAUR SINGLE 21 WALES PEMBROKE
JONES, JAMES M SON SINGLE 19 FARMERS SON WORKER WALES PEMBROKE
JONES, WILLIAM S SON SINGLE 14 FARMERS SON WORKER WALES PEMBROKE

1891 Census, Big Pencoed, Lawrenny, Pembrokeshire, Wales
JONES, WILLIAM HEAD MAR 39 FARMER EMPLOYER CARMARTHEN LLANGINNING ENGLISH/WELSH
JONES, ELIZABETH WIFE MAR 41 PEMBROKE LLANDEWY VELFRY ENGLISH/WELSH
JONES, MARTHA DAUR SINGLE 15 DRESSMAKER APPRENTICE EMPLOYED PEMBROKE LLANDEWY VELFRY ENGLISH
JONES, PHOEBE DAUR 13 SCHOLAR PEMBROKE LLANDEWY VELFRY ENGLISH
JONES, JAMES M J SON 10 SCHOLAR PEMBROKE LAWRENNY ENGLISH
JONES, WILLIAM S SON 4 PEMBROKE LAWRENNY ENGLISH
DAVIES, JOHN SERVANT SINGLE 27 AGRICULTURAL LABOURER EMPLOYED PEMBROKE MURTONS ENGLISH
SMITH, JOHN SERVANT SINGLE 16 AGRICULTURAL LABOURER EMPLOYED AMERICA ENGLISH

1881 Census, Big Pencoed, Lawrenny, Pembrokeshire, Wales
JONES, WILLIAM HEAD MAR 32 FARMER 157 ACRES EMPLOYING 26 CARMARTHEN LLANGINNING
JONES, ELIZABETH WIFE MAR 32 FARMERS WIFE PEMBROKE LLANDEWY VELFRY
JONES, MARTHA DAUR 5 PEMBROKE LLANDEWY VELFRY
JONES, PHEBE ANN DAUR 3 PEMBROKE LLANDEWY VELFRY
JONES, JAMES MELBOUR SON 11 MONTHS PEMBROKE LAWRENNY
GRIFFITHS, RACHAL SERVANT UNM 17 GENERAL SERVANT PEMBROKE MARTLETWY
THOMAS, ELIZABETH SERVANT UNM 14 NURSE DOM PEMBROKE CAREW
THOMAS, WILLIAM SERVANT UNM 21 FARM SERVANT INDOOR PEMBROKE LLANDEWY VELFRY
JAMES, HENRY SERVANT UNM 19 FARM SERVANT INDOOR PEMBROKE JEFRESTON
JAMES, THOMAS SERVANT UNM 15 FARM SERVANT INDOOR PEMBROKE BEGELLY

In the 1871 census, William Jones is at home with his parents and siblings living at Woolstone Farm, St Clears. The 1861 census for St Clears is missing. I suspect that William could have been born after the 1851 census as I cannot find the family on that return.

William must have died between 1901 and 1911 as he disappears from the census returns.

Children of William and Elizabeth (nee Scourfield) Jones are:
William Scourfield Jones born 1887 Lawrenny, Pembrokeshire
Martha Jones born 1876-1880 Llandewy Velfry, Pembrokeshire
Phoebe Annie Jones born 1878-1888 – Llandewy velfry, Pembrokeshire
James Melbourne J Jones born 1880-1882

William Scourfield Jones (born 1887)

William Scourfield Jones was married in April/May/June 1917 to Minnie J Tuffin in the Risbridge district of Suffolk. Williams sister’s (Phoebe) marriage also took place in 1917 (October)

William  Scourfield Jones Descendants

I can find a Minnie Jessie Tuffin born within the Risbridge district during 1885.  From the 1901 census it looks as though the Tuffin family were living at New House Farm in Poslingford. Her parents were Frederick and Emma,  originating from Sudbury and her siblings were Willie and Marian. All of the Tuffin children are shown as being born in Haverhill.

I can find the following children born to William Scourfield and Minnie (nee Tuffin) Jones within the Risbridge district:
Frederick Jones Oct/Nov/Dec 1921
William Jones Oct/Nov/Dec 1921
Mary Jones July/Aug/Sep 1923
Jessie Jones July/Aug/Sep 1927
Henry Jones Jan/Feb/Mar 1929
(Female) Jones Jan/Feb/Mar 1929 Deaths (Female) Jones Jan/Feb/March 1929
Elizabeth Jones Jan/Feb/Mar 1931

Henry and Jessie Jones

Henry (born 1929) and Jessie (born 1927) Jones

Mary Keyton (nee Jones) born 1923

Mary Keyton (nee Jones) (born 1923)

Martha Jones 1876-1880 Llandewy Velfry, Pembrokeshire
As far as I know, Martha never married and in fact ended up residing in Melton mental institution in Suffolk where she is believed to have died during the 1960’s.

Phoebe Annie Jones born 1878-1888 – Llandewy velfry, Pembrokeshire
Married George Williams at Poslingford in October 1917.

Marriage of George Williams and Phoebe Annie Jones

Marriage of George Williams and Phoebe Annie Jones

Back Row: Unknown, David Rowland Scourfield (1892-1969), Unknown, William Scourfield Jones (1887-) Front Row: Unknown, George Williams (Groom) (-1929), Phoebe Ann Williams (nee Jones) (Bride), Unknown Location: Flax Farm, Poslingford, Clare, Suffolk Date: Oct 3rd 1917

Phoebe and George had a son William G S Jones born in April/May/June 1918. Sadly he died shortly after birth.

George Williams senior died 0n 21st June 1929 at the age of 67.   The grave inscription  states that George was from Flax Farm, Poslingford. I assume that it could be Phoebe standing beside the grave.

Phoebe Annie Williams (nee Jones)

Phoebe Annie Williams (nee Jones), Stansfield Cemetery, Suffolk

Phoebe Annie Williams (nee Jones)

Phoebe Annie Williams (nee Jones), Stansfield Cemetery, Suffolk

James Melbourne J Jones born 1880-1882
James Melbourne Jones went to Australia on a visit, returning with David Jenkins on one of his trips to Wales. He was only supposed to “visit”, but stayed on and married Agnes Luise “Angy” Finger. This arrangement was apparently met with disapproval as Angy was the daughter of the orchardist/landowner James was the hired help. They did however go to New Zealand and married there. They returned to Victoria and spent some time there before returning to England.  James and Angy did have one daughter called Marion Grace Jones.  Marion spent much of her life living in England and died without being married and without issue.

Marriage of James Melbourne Jones and Angy Finger

Marriage of James Melbourne Jones and Angy Finger

Marion Grace Jones with mother Angy Jones (nee Finger)

Marion Grace Jones with mother Angy Jones (nee Finger)

Marion Grace Jones with father Melbourne Jones

Marion Grace Jones with father Melbourne Jones

Anne Jones, born 1852 Carmarthenshire

Anne Jones Descendants

In the 1871 census, Anne Jones is at home with her parents and siblings living at Woolstone Farm, St Clears.

Anne Jones (b. 1852) married Evan Morgan (b. 1849) of Longford Farm, Castelldwyran on the 1st August 1875. They lived at Poyston West, Rudbaxton and had one son Henry Jones Morgan (b.1880). Anne and Evan are buried at Ffynnon Chapel, Llanddewi Velfrey.

Anne Jones (born 1852) married Evan Morgan and Anne’s younger brother John Jones (born 1861) married Evan’s younger sister Ann Morgan (born 1862).

Henry Jones Morgan
Henry Jones Morgan

Henry Jones Morgan (b.1880 Poyston West) was a very interesting person – a qualified pharmacist and optician and a registered dentist. He and Edith lived in Kimbolton and then Somersham.

Henry Jones Morgan, Edith Ashmore
Wedding of Henry Jones Morgan and Edith Ashmore, 1910
Taken in the Ashmore family garden at Bicester
Back Row: Unknown, unknown, unknown, Archibald Blincow (Amy’s fiance), Amy Ashmore (bride’s sister), unknown, Kate Ashmore (bride’s aunt), Leah David (nee Jones) (groom’s aunt), Jane Ashmore, John Ashmore
Front: Edith Morgan (nee Ashmore), Henry Jones Morgan

Ivan & Olwen Morgan with Mollie Blincow
Ivan Morgan, cousin Mollie Blincow, Olwen Morgan

Mollie is cousin to Ivan and Olwen. She is the daughter of Amy Blincow (nee Ashmore).  Amy being the sister of Edith Morgan (nee Ashmore).

Henry Jones Morgan, Ivan & Olwen Morgan

Henry Jones Morgan, Olwen Morgan, Ivan Morgan

Henry Jones Morgan, Ivan Morgan
Henry Jones Morgan, Ivan Morgan

Henry Jones Morgan
Henry Jones Morgan

Believed to be Olwen and Ivan Morgan

Believed to be Olwen and Ivan Morgan

Howell Jones, born 1852-1854 Llangining Carmarthenshire

Grave of Howell and Elizabeth Jones, Bethlehem Chapel, St Clears

Grave of Howell and Elizabeth Jones, Bethlehem Chapel, St Clears

Grave of Lewis Gwilym Jones and wife Sarah Jones, Bethlehem Chapel, St Clears

Grave of Lewis Gwilym Jones (son of Howell and Elizabeth Jones) and wife Sarah Jones, Bethlehem Chapel, St Clears

1911 Census, Great Newton, St Clears, Carmarthenshire, Wales

JONES, HOWELL HEAD MAR 55 FARMER CARMARTHENSHIRE LLANGINING BOTH
JONES, ELIZABETH WIFE MAR 54 CARMARTHENSHIRE LAUGHARNE BOTH
* MARRIED 25 YEARS, 4 CHILDREN, 4 STILL LIVING *
JONES, LEWIS G SON 24 SINGLE FARMER’S SON WORKING ON FARM WORKER PEMBROKESHIRE RUDBAXTON BOTH
JONES, JAMES C SON 22 SINGLE FARMER’S SON WORKING ON FARM WORKER PEMBROKESHIRE RUDBAXTON BOTH
JONES, JOHN SON 20 SINGLE FARMER’S SON WORKING ON FARM WORKER PEMBROKESHIRE RUDBAXTON BOTH
JONES, PHEOBE A DAU 18 SINGLE DAIRY WORK WORKER PEMBROKESHIRE RUDBAXTON BOTH
ISAAC, LOUISA SERVANT 35 SINGLE GENERAL SERVANT WORKER CARMARTHENSHIRE LLANDOWRER BOTH

1901 Census, Great Milton, Laugharne, Carmarthenshire, Wales

JONES, HOWELL HEAD MAR 49 FARMER EMPLOYER CARMARTHENSHIRE LLANGINING BOTH
JONES, ELIZABETH WIFE MAR 46 CARMARTHENSHIRE LAUGHARNE BOTH
JONES, LEWIS G SON 14 PEMBROKESHIRE RUDBAXTON BOTH
JONES, JAMES C SON 12 PEMBROKESHIRE RUDBAXTON BOTH
JONES, WILLIAM J SON 10 PEMBROKESHIRE RUDBAXTON BOTH
JONES, PHEBOE A DAU 8 PEMBROKESHIRE RUDBAXTON BOTH
JENKINS, MARY SERVANT SINGLE 22 GENERAL SERVANT DOMESTIC CARMARTHENSHIRE TRELECH
WILLIAMS, JOSEPH SERVANT SINGLE 27 TEAMSTER ON FARM WORKER CARMARTHENSHIRE LAUGHARNE
EVANS, HENRY VISITOR SINGLE 27 CARMARTHENSHIRE LAUGHARNE

1891 Census, Newton, Rudbaxton, Pembrokeshire, Wales

JONES, HOWELL HEAD MAR 37 FARMER EMPLOYER CARMARTHENSHIRE ST CLEARS
JONES, ELIZABETH WIFE MAR 30 CARMARTHENSHIRE LAUGHARNE
JONES, GWYLIUN SON 4 PEMBROKESHIRE RUDBAXTON
JONES, JAMES SON 3 PEMBROKESHIRE RUDBAXTON
JONES, JOHN SON 8 MONTHS PEMBROKESHIRE RUDBAXTON
RICHARDS, MARTHA SERVANT 30 SERVANT (DOMESTIC) PEMBROKESHIRE SPITTAL
DAVIS, MARY SERVANT SERVANT (DOMESTIC) PEMBROKESHIRE TUFTON

Howell married Elizabeth Evans in Oct/Nov/Dec 1885.

In the 1871 and 1881 census, Howell Jones is at home with his parents and siblings living at Woolstone Farm, St Clears.

Howell died in June 1921 and is buried at Bethlehem Chapel, St Clears.

Notes on Jones families

Jones Family Notes

From these notes made by Elizabeth, Muriel and Sarah Jones, a number of descendant lines exist for Howell Jones.

Thomas Jones, born 1855 Carmarthenshire

Notes from Wendy: I have guessed that Thomas Jones(b 1854) may be the farmer referred to in the 1881 census as born in Mydrim. My flight of fancy being that Phoebe might have given birth while staying with her parents at Bronygaer?? I’ll try to get this person’s birth certificate to check. He is married to Anna (of Conwil) and living at Plas (Llanllawddog) northeast of Carmarthen and their first daughter is named Phoebe… He appears in 1891 and 1901 censuses having moved to Llanegwad parish and in 1891 his wife’s name is given as Hannah.

Henry Jones, born 1857 Carmarthenshire

Henry Jones Descendants

1901 Census, Talog House, Halfway, Llanelly, Carmarthenshire, Wales

JONES, HENRY HEAD MAR 44 TAILOR OWN ACCOUNT AT HOME CARMARTHEN ST CLEARS BOTH
JONES, ESTHER WIFE MAR 43 CARMARTHEN ST CLEARS BOTH
JONES, THOMAS SON SINGLE 19 TAILOR SON (ASSISTANT) WORKER CARMARTHEN LLANELLY BOTH
JONES, JAMES SON SINGLE 17 CARPENTERS ASSISTANT WORKER CARMARTHEN LLANELLY BOTH
JONES, LODWIG SON SINGLE 14 GROCER’S APPRENTICE WORKER CARMARTHEN LLANELLY BOTH
JONES, SARAH DAUR SINGLE 12 CARMARTHEN LLANELLY BOTH
JONES, WILLIAM J SON SINGLE 9 CARMARTHEN LLANELLY BOTH

1881 Census, 127 High Street, Merthyr Tydfill, Carmarthenshire, Wales

JEREMY, RICHARD THOMAS HEAD MAR 40 LINEN DRAPER CARMARTHENSHIRE ABERGWILLY
JEREMY, MAGGIE WIFE MAR 30 DRAPER’S WIFE PEMBROKE ST ISSELS
JEREMY, ANNIE E M DAUR SINGLE 7 DRAPER’S DAUGHTER GLAMORGAN MERTHYR
JEREMY, WILLIAM F E R SON SINGLE 5 DRAPER’S SON GLAMORGAN MERTHYR
JEREMY, DIGBY E G SON SINGLE 3 MONTHS DRAPER’S SON GLAMORGAN MERTHYR
JONES, HENRY ASSISTANT UNM 16 DRAPER’S ASSISTANT CARMARTHENSHIRE ST CLEARS
HAYES, DAVID ASSISTANT UNM 14 DRAPER’S ASSISTANT GLAMORGANSHIRE MERTHYR
DIXON, MARY ANNE SERVANT UNM 19 DOMESTIC SERVANT GLAMORGANSHIRE MERTHYR

Leah Jones, born 1859

Leah married David William David at Bethlehem Chapel, St Clears in 1883.

Bethlehem Chapel, St Clears

Bethlehem Chapel, St Clears

The small left cross denotes the location of the grave of Jane Jones (Leah’s sister) where Leah and David’s daughter Mary is also buried.
The small right cross denotes the location of the grave of Phoebe and James Jones (Leah’s parents).

Bethlehem Chapel, St Clears

1881 census, Trecadwgan, Llanfihangel Abercowin, Carmarthen, Wales

William THOMAS Head W Male 51 Laugharne, Carmarthen, Wales Farmer
Leah JONES Neice U Female 21 St Clears, Carmarthen, Wales Housekeeper
John EVANS Serv U Male 22 Llangunnock, Carmarthen, Wales Farm Servant Indoor
James WILLIAMS Serv U Male 15 Llangunnock, Carmarthen, Wales Farm Servant Indoor
Anna DAVIES Serv U Female 35 Trelech, Carmarthen, Wales General Servant (Dom)
Mary JAMES Serv U Female 16 Trelech, Carmarthen, Wales General Servant (Dom)

For both the 1871 and 1881 census returns, Leah is shown as living with her Aunt Mary (b 1933) (sister to Leah’s mother Phoebe) and Uncle William Thomas (b 1830).  Her Aunt Mary has died by the time of the 1881 census and by this time is shown as being housekeeper.

John Jones, born 1857 Carmarthenshire

This first John Jones died aged 7 days on the 20th April 1857. He is buried in the same grave as his parents at Bethlehem Chapel, St Clears

John Jones, born 1861 Carmarthenshire

John married Ann Morgan (born 1862) and his elder sister Anne married Ann Morgan’s brother Evan Morgan.  From the 1911 census we can assume that John and Ann did not have any children.  It is possible that Woolstone Farm passed out of the Jones family after John Jones had finished his days farming there.

1911 Census, Woolstone Farm, St Clears, Carmarthenshire, Wales

JONES, JOHN HEAD MAR 49 FARMER EMPLOYER CARMARTHEN ST CLEARS BOTH
JONES, ANNE WIFE MAR 49 CARMARTHEN CASTLEDWYRAN BOTH
* MARRIED 14 YEARS, NO CHILDREN
HUSBAND, DAVID SERVANT SINGLE 17 WAGONER ON FARM WORKER CARMARTHEN ST CLEARS BOTH
GRIFFITHS, WILLIAM SERVANT SINGLE 16 ERRAND BOY WORKER CARMARTHEN ST CLEARS BOTH
HOWELLS, MARY SERVANT SINGLE 18 GENERAL SERVANT DOMESTIC GLAMORGAN YNYS YBWL BOTH
WILLIAMS, EDITH MAY SINGLE 16 GLAMORGAN MARDY BOTH

1901 Census, Woolstone Farm, St Clears, Carmarthenshire, Wales

JONES, JOHN HEAD MAR 39 FARMER EMPLOYER CARMARTHEN ST CLEARS BOTH
JONES, ANNE WIFE MAR 39 CARMARTHEN CASTLEDWYRAN BOTH

Lewis Jones, born Carmarthenshire

Nothing is currently known about Lewis Jones.

Mary Jones, born 1864 Carmarthenshire

Nothing is currently known about Mary Jones

Jane Jones, born 1866 Carmarthenshire

Jane and James Ira Jones
Jane and James Ira Jones

Grave of Jane Jones and niece Mary Jones
Grave of Jane Jones and niece Mary David

Inscription from Bethlehem Chapel, St Clears:
Jane Jones
Wolston House, St. Clears
d. May 3 1949, aged 83 yrs
Mary, niece of above
daughter of David & Leah David
Brixtarw, Laugharne
d. Feb 5 1892, aged 7 yrs

1911 Census, Glasfryn Villa, St Clears, Carmarthenshire, Wales

JONES, JANE HEAD SINGLE 43 MILLINER AND GENERAL SHOPKEEPER OWN ACCOUNT CARMARTHEN ST CLEARS BOTH

1901 Census, Woolstone House, Llanfihangel Abercowin, Carmarthenshire, Wales

JONES, JANE HEAD SINGLE 32 CLOTHIER DEALER & GROCER OWN ACCOUNT AT HOME CARMARTHEN ST CLEARS BOTH

1881 Census, Laugharne School, Market Street, Laugharne, Carmarthenshire, Wales

ROGERS, SARAH HEAD SINGLE 40 TEACHER (SCHOOL) CARMARTHENSHIRE LAUGHARNE
ROGERS, ESTHER SISTER SINGLE 41 HOUSE KEEPERS CARMARTHENSHIRE LAUGHARNE
WILLIAMS, PHOEBE BOARDER SINGLE 16 SCHOLAR PEMBROKESHIRE S HANDY EGREMONT
LEWIS, WINIFRED BOARDER SINGLE 15 SCHOLAR GLAMORGANSHIRE SWANSEA
CHILES, MARY A BOARDER SINGLE 15 PEMBROKESHIRE TENBY
THOMAS, ANNA BOARDER SINGLE 14 SCHOLAR CARMARTHENSHIRE LLANWINIO
JONES, JANE BOARDER SINGLE 14 CARMARTHENSHIRE ST CLEARS
JONES, HANNAH BOARDER SINGLE 13 CARMARTHENSHIRE LLANSTEPHAN
LEWIS, EVELINE D V BOARDER SINGLE 11 SCHOLAR CARMARTHENSHIRE TOWN
LEWIS, MARY B BOARDER SINGLE 10 PEMBROKESHIRE NARBETH
JENKINS, MARY SERVANT SINGLE 25 GEN SERVANT DOMESTIC CARMARTHENSHIRE LLANBOIDY

Jane Jones was mother to the famous war hero, James “Ira” Jones. He is known to have suffered from a bad stutter. According to my Grandmother (Elizabeth Haynes (nee Cullum)) he acquired the stutter after being rolled down a hill in a barrel as a child. This probably accounts for why he was residing with a speech therapist in Lancashire for the 1911 census. The stutter apparently completely disappeared whilst he was in the air.

1911 Census, 34 Head Room Gate Road, St-Annes-On-the-Sea, Lancashire

YEARSLEY, WALTER HEAD MARRIED 8 M 35 SPEECH SPECIALIST WARLEY ESSEX
YEARSLEY, ALICE WIFE MARRIED 8 F 32 BENTHAM YORKSHIRE
ROBINSON, CHARLES VISITOR SINGLE M 18 FARMERS SON WORKING ON FARM DOWNHAM LANCASHIRE
MANN, STANLEY VISITOR SINGLE M 15 PONTEFRACT
WILLIAMS, PERCY VISITOR SINGLE M 15 BUTCHERS SON WORKING ON SHOP PONTYPRIDD
BARRETT, ALFRED VISITOR SINGLE M 18 RAILWAY GOODS OFFICE CROSBY
JONES, IRA VISITOR SINGLE F 15 ST CLEARS S WALES
ROWSE, BEATRICE SINGLE F 24 SERVANT MILLOM CUMBERLAND

1901 Census, Bronyyar, Mydrim, Carmarthenshire, Wales

HOWELL, JOHN HEAD MAR 60 FARMER EMPLOYER CARMARTHEN MYDRIM BOTH
HOWELL, ELIZABETH WIFE MAR 52 CARMARTHEN MYDRIM BOTH
HOWELL, HETTIE DAUR SINGLE 21 FARMER’S DAUGHTER WORKER CARMARTHEN MYDRIM BOTH
HOWELL, SOPHIA DAUR SINGLE 17 FARMER’S DAUGHTER WORKER CARMARTHEN MYDRIM BOTH
JONES, JAMES IRA NEPHEW SINGLE 5 CARMARTHEN ST CLEARS WELSH
EVANS, FREDERICK SERVANT SINGLE 19 COWMAN ON FARM WORKER CARMARTHEN LLANFIHANGEL BOTH
WALTERS, PHILLIP SERVANT SINGLE 19 CARTER ON FARM WORKER CARMARTHEN LLANFIHANGEL BOTH
DAVIES, ELIZA SERVANT SINGLE 17 GENERAL SERVANT (DOM) WORKER CARMARTHEN MYDRIM BOTH

For the 1901 census, James Ira Tomas Jones is living with his Great Uncle, John Howell.  John Howell was brother to his Grandmother Phoebe Jones (nee Howell).

James Ira Thomas ‘Taffy’ Jones, Captain, Royal Flying Corps. (St. Clears)

Ira Jones was born on 18 April, 1896 at Woolstone, Llanddowror-near St. Clears, Carmarthenshire. He was a plucky character, joining the Territorials-the 4th Welsh- in 1913. At the outbreak of war in 1914, Ira was in London-studying Wireless and Cable Telegraphy. He waited for the call to arms, but it never came, and so-feeling very frustrated-he decided to join the fledgling Royal Flying Corps. It was now June 1915. After training at Farnborough, Ira was posted to No. 10 Squadron at Netheravon. He was commissioned in August 1917, and after a stint as an air gunner/ observer, was sent to England to commence Pilot Training, before being posted to the famous 74 Squadron, led by ‘Mick’ Mannock, and it was with them that he earned his impressive array of medals. Ira won the Military Medal in September 1916, by rescuing five wounded gunners, whilst he was working as groundcrew. Next Ira was awarded The Russian Order of St. George’s Cross, in January 1917, after receiving several commendations for bravery. His Distinguished Flying Cross (DFC) (London Gazette dated 3 August, 1918) was awarded for “In eleven days this officer attacked and destroyed six enemy aeroplanes, displaying great courage, skill and initiative.” Next came the Military Cross (MC). The citation in the London Gazette of 16 September, 1918 read-

“For conspicuous gallantry and devotion to duty. This officer, one of an offensive patrol, engaged and shot down in flames a two-seater, which fell to earth. Ten days later, on offensive patrol, he shot down a Hannover two-seater, which crashed. The next day, when patrolling, he pursued, overtook and shot down an Albatross two-seater. During the same flight he met a Halberstadt two-seater and killed the observer, who either jumped or fell overboard, but had to break off as his ammunition was finished. The next day he shot a balloon down in flames. Three days later he got a good burst with both guns on a Pfalz scout, both wings coming off. He has driven two others down out of control.”

Ira then won a Bar to the Distinguished Flying Cross (DFC). The London Gazette Citation dated 21 September, 1918 read-

“A gallant officer who in the last three months has destroyed twenty-one enemy aeroplanes. On one occasion he attacked a Halberstadt two-seater, which was escorted by two scouts. On his approach the scouts deserted the two-seater, which he shot down in flames. He then pursued the two scouts, one of which he destroyed.”

Next he was to gain the Distinguished Service Order (DSO). The London Gazette citation dated 2 November, 1918 read-

“Since joining his present Brigade in May last this officer has destroyed twenty-eight enemy machines. He combines skilful tactics and marksmanship with high courage. While engaged on wireless interception duty he followed a patrol of nine Fokker biplanes, and succeeded in joining their formation unobserved. After a while two Fokkers left the formation to attack one of our artillery observation machines. Following them, Captain Jones engaged the higher of the two, which fell on its companion, and both machines fell interlocked in flames.”

Ira Jones had a reputation of having an unfortunate habit of crashing aircraft when attempting to land. This may have stemmed from poor depth perception. Despite his vision problems, he scored 37 victories in just 3 months whilst serving with 74 Squadron in France.

“It is wonderful how cheered a pilot becomes after he shoots down his first machine; his morale increases by at least 100 percent.” Ira Jones.

Ira Jones finished the war with 37 confirmed victories, being the highest scoring Welsh Pilot of the war, and became the joint 17th highest scoring Allied Fighter Pilot, scoring more kills than aces such as the great Leutnant Karl Allmenroder of Germany, and the great English Pilot, Captain Albert Ball V.C. He went on to fly again on operational flights in 1939 (without authorisation!), when the German Blitzkrieg swept through France. He was transferred to ground duties, taking command of R.A.F. Tern Hill in Shropshire. He died at Aberaeron on 30 August, 1960, and is buried near Bancyfelin, Carmarthen. Ira is remembered by an impressive memorial in St. Clears, next to the Town War Memorial, which he had the honour of unveiling.

Thanks to Steven John and his wonderful website for the above description – http://www.laugharnewarmemorial.co.uk/page4.htm.

James Ira Jones, St Clears

James Ira “Taffy” Jones unveiling the war memorial in St Clears

Miriam Jones, born 1867 Carmarthenshire

1911 Census, Crown House, St Clears, Carmarthenshire, Wales

PHILLIPS, JOTHAM HEAD MAR 43 DEALER (CATTLE) CARMARTHEN MYDRIM BOTH
PHLLIPS, MIRIAM WIFE MAR 42 CARMARTHEN ST CLEARS BOTH
* MARRIED 14 YEARS, 2 CHILDREN, 2 STILL LIVING
PHILLIPS, AGNES DAU 13 AT SCHOOL CARMARTHEN ST CLEARS BOTH
PHILLIPS, IDA DAU 6 AT SCHOOL CARMARTHEN ST CLEARS BOTH

1901 Census, Penbrae Farm, St Clears, Carmarthenshire, Wales

PHILLIPS, JOTHAM HEAD MAR 33 FARMER EMPLOYER CARMARTHEN MYDRIM BOTH
PHLLIPS, MIRIAM WIFE MAR 33 CARMARTHEN ST CLEARS BOTH
PHILLIPS, PHOEBE DAU 3 CARMARTHEN ST CLEARS BOTH

In the census returns for 1891, 1881 and 1871, Miriam is shown as living with her parents and siblings at Woolstone Farm, St Clears.

Rose Ida Phillips

Rose Ida Phillips

Ida Phillips appointment as Matron at Gorseinon General Hospital

Rose Ida Phillips did not marry.

On the rootsweb.com site I found the following notes posted by Felicity Cleaves in 2001:

In the Parish Church Graveyards at Llanddowror are the following graves

Miriam wife of Jotham Phillips Late Ostrey Villa, St Clears 14/12/1935 68yrs
Jotham Phillips 13/12/40 aged 73yrs

David Stanley Son of Jotham and Miriam Phillips of Penback, St Clears Age
14 months
Other information from family sources:

Phillips family

Jotham and Miriam Phillips had two daughters besides David Stanley. Ida
Phillips was Matron of Gorsienon Hospital from 1929 -1965 she is buried in
St Clears. Pheobe Agnes Williams (nee Phillips) married James Williams and
they had one son Gordan who still farms at Llwynbychan Farm north of St
Clears.

 

Elizabeth Jones, born 1869 Carmarthenshire

Presumably this first Elizabeth died as there is a subsequent Elizabeth born in 1875.

Elizabeth Jones, born 1875

Elizabeth died on 21st September 1879 aged 4 years. She is buried in her parent’s grave at Bethlehem Chapel, St Clears.

Melbourne and Angy Jones

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This morning another email was waiting in my inbox from Australia with information of the Jones/Scourfield family:

Melbourne Jones came to Australia on a visit, returning with David Jenkins on one of his trips to Wales. He was only supposed to “visit”, but stayed on and married Angy Finger. They apparently met with disapproval of the arragement as she was the daughter of the orchardist/landowner and he was the hired help. However they went to New Zealand and married there. I have their marriage certificate. They returned to Victoria and spent some time here before returning to England.
I was particularly interested in Robert Scourfield (as he was the first member of the family to come to Australia. I have a lot of information on his life, but have been having great trouble finding shipping records of his arrival. He appears on the 1851 census, but not the 1861 census – so maybe he arrived a lot earlier than I have been looking. He set up a succesful tailoring business in partnership in Melbourne. Obviously he was responsible for his sister, Jane, and the Jenkins family coming to Australia in 1883. He purchased (on his sister’s behalf) orcharding land in Templestowe, and the generations worked this orchard until 1976 when it was sold for sub-division.

Jane Scourfield married David Jenkins in Narbeth (Bethal Chapel) so if you ever managed to get to Wales you could find the Chapel, and just down the same road, the family farm of your ancestors. It is still called “Brynhafod Farm”. I imagine this is the same place that Elizabeth would have married William Jones.

On your query re the wedding photo – I do know that the name “Margaret Jenkins” is part of the information I have on the Jenkins family in Wales. I will try to put names and dates together to see if they coincide. I am sure the Jenkins/Scourfield connection could have extended to friendships which would have made it possible for her to be one of “our” Jenkins.

Shirley Payne who wrote a letter is the daughter of Douglas Scourfield, who is the son of Nathaniel Scourfield and Hannah Bowen.

Thanks again so much. And I will get this information together and forward it to you.
Beverley

News from down under!

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Following the letter that I wrote to Australia, thanks to the address that Mary Keyton (nee Jones) gave me, today I received an email response back – hoorah! The contact is a grandson of Ann Jenkins (nee Scourfield). Ann was a sister of Elizabeth Jones (nee Scourfield) who married William, a brother of my Great Great Grandmother Leah David (nee Jones). They have some information relating to Melbourne Jones and his wife Angy. As I had suspected earlier in my research, Melbourne Jones did spend some time in Australia.

Angy Jones with daughter Marion Grace Jones:

Marion Grace Jones

Melbourne Jones with daughter Marion Grace Jones:

Marion Grace Jones

More mystery faces named

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A few days ago I received the first real feedback to my blog since I started writing it earlier this year. It is a refreshing change to the usual spam!

The mail came from Julian David who is also descended from my Great Great Grandmother Leah David (nee Jones). There are only two lines of possible descent on that side of the family, Julian being in one and my family line being in the other. It is fantastic to reconnect on that side of the family. My Grandma always talks fondly about Anchor David (who I now know correcly should be Anker David). Julian has also cleared up a handful of mystery photographs in the collection that I have borrowed.

This is William J. David, brother of my Great Grandmother Phoebe Cullum (nee David):

William J. David

This is William J. David’s son William Anker David:

William Anker David

This is William J. David’s son William Anker David:

William Anker David

This is Ivan and Olwen Morgan. It is not yet known who the smaller girl called Mollie is. Ivan and Olwen were children of Henry and Edith Morgan. Henry was the son of Evan and Ann Morgan (nee Jones), Ann being the sister of my Great Great Grandmother Leah David (nee Jones).

Ivan and Olwen Morgan

More news from Suffolk

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Since I last wrote I have received another letter from Mary Keyton (nee Jones) in Suffolk. She gave me the address of a Jenkins relative in Australia to whom I have since written. Mary also included copies of photographs of herself.

Mary Jones Keyton

Mary Jones Keyton

Mary Jones Keyton

Mary Jones Keyton

Mary Jones Keyton

Show stoppers

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Well, we entered the Monk Sherborne show a few weeks back. Adult categories entered included white potatoes, onions, chocolate cake baked by a man (yes a man!), shortbread and scones. James entered a potato print picture, tray garden and vase of flowers. Amazingly I won a second prize for the onions and James was the family star winning first for his tray garden and two thirds for his potato print picture and vase of flowers.

The shortbread recipe was a winner, however I cut my circle into eight rather than six as required on the judging schedule. At risk of losing the winning recipe, here is a copy for reference next time:

Women’s Institute recipe

225g (8oz) softened butter
115g (4oz) icing sugar
225g (8oz) plain or SR flour
115g (4oz) cornflour
caster sugar to dredge

Cream butter and sugar, then blend in flour and cornflour. Grease a swiss roll tin and press mixture in firmly. Bake at 150 degrees c (fan oven) for 40-50 mins until golden in colour. Leave to cool in the tray for 10 mins and dredge with caster sugar. Cut into fingers and put on wire rack to cool totally. About half this recipe was sufficient to make a round of shortbread.

I made my biscuit in the round by rolling the dough to about 1cm thick and cutting around it using a small plate. I rolled it directly onto the baking tray as this gave the neatest finish. I then used the end of a spoon to indent a pattern around the edge, scored the segments and pricked a pattern using a fork. The only problem is that it was difficult to remove the shortbread from the baking tray even when well greased. Next time I may try silicon paper instead.

Monk Sherborne Show

Who was Angy?

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Edward Poole kindly sent me scanned copies of the letter that his mother had received from Angy Jones.

Angy Jones Letter
Angy Jones Letter

All of the details fit perfectly with the information that I have researched except the fact that Angy mentions that she is that last of the Jones’. The only thing that seems to make sense is that Angy’s maiden name was also Jones and she is referring to the fact that she is the last in that line. I did find one birth record for a Marian Jones where the mother’s name was also registered at Jones.

From the telephone directories I can see that there was a Mrs Melbourne Jones living at 34 Taylor Road, Wallington (the same as the letter) from about 1960-1983. Prior to that from about 1951-1959, there is a Mrs Melbourne Jones living at 28 Druce Road, Gipsy Hill, SE21. Can I therefore assume that Melbourne Jones died prior to 1951?

This jigsaw is very slowly being pieced together. I need a few more details in order to be sure which birth records relates to Marion Grace Jones and also to b able top locate a marriage record for Angy and James “Melbourne” Jones. Hopefully Mary will be able to reply with some of the questions that I have asked her.